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Wednesday, April 16th 2008, 3:30pm

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Welcome dear neighbours. Here we can discuss island related topics. Please say "hi!" so to know how is joining.

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Wednesday, April 16th 2008, 9:07pm

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Wednesday, April 16th 2008, 9:35pm

Howdy.

We should really try to keep increasing the sawmill, since wood is required to upgrade the marble quarry.

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Wednesday, April 16th 2008, 11:57pm

I agree the best idea is to power the saw mill. Here's the donation list so far. Any comments on it?

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Quiquepolis  	dbugger  	967  	Level 5  	81 Workers
Corfu 		Mithrandir 	943 	Level 5 	81 Workers
Hunters Lodge 	Bwana 		892 	Level 5 	81 Workers
Polis 		Digs 		600 	Level 4 	81 Workers
Alexandria 	Trianon 	304 	Level 7 	0 Workers (vacation)
calvinas 	calvinator 	202 	Level 5 	56 Workers
cow farm 	deadmonk11 	40 	Level 2 	30 Workers
dude town 	jake-dude 	35 	Level 1 	30 Workers
Polis 		Calrissian 	0 	Level 2 	40 Workers
NeMi-JaH-NeB 	NeMi-JaH-NeB 	0 	Level 1 	0 Workers

I think calvinator should move into the top 4 already... Agreed?

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Thursday, April 17th 2008, 4:00am

Hello to my neighbors on Breafuios. i can seen from your donation levels that you are all very experienced players. i myself am very new to this game, and still learning the ropes so to speak.

i have bought marble from both Bdugger and Mithrandir the past two days. i've also noticed that both of you have bought5 wine from me during the same time. Would it be beneficial to all of us if we set up a more regular trade?

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Thursday, April 17th 2008, 1:54pm

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Originally posted by Illuthian
Hello to my neighbors on Breafuios. i can seen from your donation levels that you are all very experienced players. i myself am very new to this game, and still learning the ropes so to speak.

i have bought marble from both Bdugger and Mithrandir the past two days. i've also noticed that both of you have bought5 wine from me during the same time. Would it be beneficial to all of us if we set up a more regular trade?


You wont be able to produce enough to keep everyone satisfied in the island. I recommend that instead of doing a deal with the island, you do an individual treaty with a single player. Im sure you'll have a lot of offers (Count me in :D)

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Thursday, April 17th 2008, 10:13pm

You make a good point. My town is still a bit small to be able to do formal in game treaties, but i am open to word of honor exchanges of goods. At this moment i have 250 bottles of wine that i can spare for an equal amount of marble. i expect that by 01:00 or 02:00 service time (current server time is 22:13) i should have a complete shipment of 300 (one boat load) if you are interested.

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Saturday, April 19th 2008, 4:39pm

Island proposal:

In order to utilize a certain level of the sawmill, you must have donated at least 10% of the cumulative cost to reach that level.

For example:

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level   Wood    Cost    Cumulative      10%
1       30              0               0
2       40      350     350             35
3       52      590     940             94
4       66      1,010   1950            195
5       81      1,810   3760            376
6       98      3,010   6770            677
7       114     4,810   11580           1158
8       134     7,060   18640           1864
9       154     10,060  28700           2870
10      175     13,910  42610           4261
11      196     18,410  61020           6102
12      219     25,010  86030           8603
13      242     32,160  118190          11819
14      265     41,160  159350          15935
15      290     52,560  211910          21191
16      315     67,510  279420          27942
17      341     85,060  364480          36448
18      367     105,210 469690          46969


So, take for example, if you want to use 66 workers. 66 is a level-4 sawmill, which took 1950 wood to create. Therefore, you need to contribute at least 195 wood to use 66 workers. If you want to use 85 workers, that's level 6, and you need to donate at least 677 wood to use that many workers.

How does this sound to everyone? Is 10% too low? Should we move it up to 20%?

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Saturday, April 19th 2008, 9:49pm

Excellent idea! I totally suport it. but 10% is definitely too low. Im using a level 7 saw mill and I've donated 3600, and your table says I should donate just 1158. I would bump it up to 25% least. Could you please post several tables, with 10% 15% 20% 25% and 30%, so we can compare them and make a decission?

And add also the numbers of worker possible at each level, please!

Great job!

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Saturday, April 19th 2008, 11:06pm

Well, I picked 10% because that means that if we have 10 people on the island, it's all even. There are a total of 16 spaces on each island so that means that eventually, if an island is full, 10% will be more than enough to keep the island upgrading continuously.

Here is the table up to 30% though (and for wood, the number of workers is the same as the number of wood mines)

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level   Wood    Cost    Cumu.   10%     15%     20%     25%     30%
1       30              0       0       0       0       0       0
2       40      350     350     35      53      70      88      105
3       52      590     940     94      141     188     235     282
4       66      1,010   1950    195     293     390     488     585
5       81      1,810   3760    376     564     752     940     1128
6       98      3,010   6770    677     1016    1354    1693    2031
7       114     4,810   11580   1158    1737    2316    2895    3474
8       134     7,060   18640   1864    2796    3728    4660    5592
9       154     10,060  28700   2870    4305    5740    7175    8610
10      175     13,910  42610   4261    6392    8522    10653   12783
11      196     18,410  61020   6102    9153    12204   15255   18306
12      219     25,010  86030   8603    12905   17206   21508   25809
13      242     32,160  118190  11819   17729   23638   29548   35457
14      265     41,160  159350  15935   23903   31870   39838   47805
15      290     52,560  211910  21191   31787   42382   52978   63573
16      315     67,510  279420  27942   41913   55884   69855   83826
17      341     85,060  364480  36448   54672   72896   91120   109344
18      367     105,210 469690  46969   70454   93938   117423  140907

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Saturday, April 19th 2008, 11:32pm

RE: Breafuios

Hey I am on Schupios, and I have 2 marble colonies and I am happy to trade marble for mostly wine and sulfur for now. anyone else reading this on Schupios or Elementia. Please start donating for the quarry and saw mill. I have only been on this server about a week and have lv 10 & lv 8 Marble towns already. It's frustrating that most of the people have been inactive and/or on vacation since I started. I have attacked a few colonies already donating all the wood I get to the mills and quarries. That bothers me because I am not that kind of player to just randomly go after people. But since I ahve donated over 5k in wood on one Island alone, I feel inclined to do something about the situation. So if your on one of the Islands that I occupy as well don't come here crying that you are being attacked by me, just donate and I will instantly stop the attacks thank you all.

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Sunday, April 20th 2008, 12:50am

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Hey I am on Schupios, and I have 2 marble colonies and I am happy to trade marble for mostly wine and sulfur for now. anyone else reading this on Schupios or Elementia. Please start donating for the quarry and saw mill. I have only been on this server about a week and have lv 10 & lv 8 Marble towns already. It's frustrating that most of the people have been inactive and/or on vacation since I started. I have attacked a few colonies already donating all the wood I get to the mills and quarries. That bothers me because I am not that kind of player to just randomly go after people. But since I ahve donated over 5k in wood on one Island alone, I feel inclined to do something about the situation. So if your on one of the Islands that I occupy as well don't come here crying that you are being attacked by me, just donate and I will instantly stop the attacks thank you all.


I dont know what you are trying to accomplish posting this here. This thread is for discussion about Breafuios, NOT Schupios or Elementia

If you are trying to get a trade partner, and you have 2 marble colonies, then maybe you should NOT search in Breafuios, which is also marble... ¬¬

If you want people to donate to your sawmill or mine... dont do it here. It makes no sense. We can only donate to our island, which is NOT schupios. Maybe some resident of Breafuios has a colony in Schupios (which by the way, I havent found in the surroundings of Breafuios) but in that case, you should talk directly to him or create a Island Thread for your island.

Please, stop posting here stuff that doesnt concern us.

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Monday, April 21st 2008, 12:27am

I like the idea of 20 percent until the island has a higher more stable population. We can lower it to 10 percent once we get a few more active players.

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Monday, April 21st 2008, 1:32am

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I can quote anything you want this is a WORLD discussion format. Instead of worring about what I am saying. You should be thinking about the illegal war you guys are starting and the repercussions you face for it and you make yourselves look bad as well.

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Monday, April 21st 2008, 12:18pm

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I can quote anything you want this is a WORLD discussion format. Instead of worring about what I am saying. You should be thinking about the illegal war you guys are starting and the repercussions you face for it and you make yourselves look bad as well.


Please explain what you mean. I have no idea what you mean about an illegal war.

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Monday, April 21st 2008, 7:33pm

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I like the idea of 20 percent until the island has a higher more stable population. We can lower it to 10 percent once we get a few more active players.


I agree on the 20%. Agreed?

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Wednesday, April 23rd 2008, 12:06am

20%

Cheers all, I'm all about donating the 20% you all are talking about, I just need to figure out how to come up with the total figure. The Saw Mill is lvl 7 and I have around 55 workers in it. I am extremely new to this game and would have donated more staight away had I know what it all meant. I will do my very best to slow down on my building and spend my energies helping the island prosper. Please let me know if I am doing something way off base for what we need. Looking foward to working with you all. :))

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Wednesday, April 23rd 2008, 8:43pm

I've updated the chart to make it more understandable:

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level   Workers         Cost        Cumu.           20%
1       0-30               0                          0
2       31-40            350          350            70
3       41-52            590          940           188
4       53-66          1,010        1,950           390
5       67-81          1,810        3,760           752
6       82-98          3,010        6,770         1,354
7       99-114         4,810       11,580         2,316
8       115-134        7,060       18,640         3,728
9       135-154       10,060       28,700         5,740
10      155-175       13,910       42,610         8,522
11      176-196       18,410       61,020        12,204
12      197-219       25,010       86,030        17,206
13      220-242       32,160      118,190        23,638
14      243-265       41,160      159,350        31,870
15      266-290       52,560      211,910        42,382
16      291-315       67,510      279,420        55,884
17      316-341       85,060      364,480        72,896
18      342-367      105,210      469,690        93,938


So kylechurch10, you asked about 55 workers. That would fall under the 53-66 range, which needs 390 donated.

You currently have 70 workers on Breafuios, which is in the 67-81 range. That means you need 752 to mine that much. You have donated 753, so you're one wood over the required level :D

I think with this scale we'll keep our sawmill constantly growing in size, so we'll never have a problem getting wood.

I'll work on a scale for the marble quarry next.


Edit:

I want to make one more note by the way. I think we should have a "grace period" too. For example, say the sawmill is level 8, and someone donates enough to make it go up to 9. You have donated 3,728 wood to it, but you ran out of wood because you just bought something huge. In that case, you can use the grace period, and increase your workers from 134 to 154 immediately, but within 24 hours or so, you must donate another 2,012 wood.

The reason I think this is a good idea is because if you're stuck at 134 workers, you're obviously not going to be making as much wood as you could, and therefore your donation will take longer. So if you use the grace period as a promise to donate, the mill will get upgraded faster and we all benefit.

Of course, this is also easily abused, and would require people to keep track of when the mill gets upgraded. What do you guys think?

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Thursday, April 24th 2008, 12:44am

I agree

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Thursday, April 24th 2008, 4:15am

Marble Quarry calculations:

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level   Workers       Cost      Cumu.       20%
1       0-20             0          0         0
2       21-33          550        550       110
3       34-49        1,110      1,660       332
4       50-68        2,440      4,100       820
5       69-88        4,540      8,640     1,728
6       89-110       7,620     16,260     3,252
7       111-134     12,660     28,920     5,784
8       135-159     19,660     48,580     9,716
9       160-185     28,760     77,340    15,468
10      186-213     40,520    117,860    23,572
11      214-242     54,730    172,590    34,518
12      243-271     72,420    245,010    49,002
13      272-302     95,050    340,060    68,012



These players should donate more to the quarry:

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City            Player          Donated level           Workers
Buenos Aires    San Martin      200     Level 5         88 Workers
Flagstaff       Jdawgs          0       Level 4         88 Workers



Ok I sent them friendly messages telling them to donate the proper amount within 24 hours or cut down their workers. We'll see where to go from there.

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